I knowwww people will hate me for opening a topic like this

However i know that Allah pak and his prophets hazrat Ibrahim, named this religion Islam and named us muslim, non of them were called shia or sunni or anything they where all muslims.  

BUT, i would like to know how you guys think about it 

The biggest reason behind people calling shia kafirs is, by the way this is really disguesting too me as an shia when shias say; YA ALI ALI ALI ALIALAIALI ALI ALI all day all night. Not even Ya Muhammed or ATLEAST Ya Allah. They even use Ya ali madad as solution. When shias say that Imam Ali (as) is the face of God and the Imams are God’s eyes. When shias say that you’re going to hell if you don’t do mutah. When some shias say that Imam Ali (as) is the real prophet; Angel Gabriel (as) did a mistake and mistakenly went to Prophet Muhammed (S) instead of his cousin Imam Ali.

When the religion for some shias is JUST and TOTALY ahlul bayt (as). When they NEVER mention Prophet Muhammed (S). When they say “La fatah illa Ali” millions of times but not “La Ilaha Il Allah” once. When they beat themself bloody on ashora for Imam Hussein (as), EVEN THOUGH Prophet Muhammed (S) forbade us from doing tatbir. 


When, shia sheikhs do this, they say Muhammed, or just Rasollullah. Nothing more, just muhammed or rasolullah. No blessing or peace or anything upon him, but when they mention his cousin Ali. They say, Imam Amir Al Muminin salawatullahi wa salamuhu alay. I.E showing no respect to the Prophet (S) and showing tons of respect to Imam Ali (as)

And what about seqe???


READ THIS;
What i just wrote right now was a list of things which many shias are doing, which is disguesting me. And I am VERY SURE that these things are a very big reason behind all the sunnis calling us kafirs. I AM NOT doing blasphemy or something, I’m just trying to indicate that this is WRONG

And I’m very sure that Imam Hussein (as) is NOT proud of his shias almost worshipping him and beated themself bloody for him.

 ( then again , i know NOT EVERYBODY does this or thinks like this.. im just talking in general , so no need for getting angry or whatever, just leave some good arguments about how u think about this )  : )


Comments


Mrrrrrr
Mrrrrrr 3 years ago

First of all you should tell me that are you going to make poeple fight you told me that your shia so
how come opened such a nonseable topic?

Mrrrrrr
Mrrrrrr 3 years ago

If you think shia’s are disgusting then you are disgusting the most
So tell me how do you know shia’s are kafir?

Merjan
Merjan 3 years ago

WHY o WHY afghans never can discuss about stuff??

no need to get angry, please read again.. maby you will understand that i never said shia’s are kafirs

I said that I know NOT EVERYBODY does this or thinks like this.. im just talking in general , so no need for getting angry or whatever, just leave some good arguments about how u think about this.

If its nonsense , then give some good arguments why you think its nonsense ;)

D0cT0r
D0cT0r 3 years ago

I say 24 hrs ya Ali ya Ali and all 12 imams that I have as an shia and no one can stop me or changing me by gossiping…..

Merjan
Merjan 3 years ago

nobody’s telling you to change doc, this is not what the topic is about

some people have this bigg walls next to there eyes, they don’t want to see whats next to them, but only see what is in front of them 

Mrrrrrr
Mrrrrrr 3 years ago

This is the reason why Muslims are soo down and behind around the world because sonias says shias are kafir shias says sonias are kafir what the fuck believe on whatever you believe who cares but don’t jump on others

This topic it just nonsense no need to give my self a headach

Merjan
Merjan 3 years ago

why is this subject so sensitive
why do you guys feel attacked? why are you guys defending?

Its not the Muslims, its the people that close there eyes and ears for stuff they don’t want to see or hear.

If you can’t even have a chat with someone that has different point of view / arguments about stuff , then there can never be ‘‘peace’‘ between muslims.

Mrrrrrr
Mrrrrrr 3 years ago

One word I’m confuesed about you

D0cT0r
D0cT0r 3 years ago

Merjan khanoom u want to bring the peace aha I didn’t know that wallah Badesham why did u say calling ya Ali is disgusting and chejoori medooni all the shias pple never say ya Allah and just say ya Ali do u know wut I’m doing in ma life ? If ur answer is no khoob how do u about those pple who never say Allah?
Man khodam shia hastam and I always say ya Allah cuz I nd help and he comes first of everything and anyone then whoever I believe and wut ever I believe to pray I do on the topic u said ur shia so tell me kind of shia u R ? Merjan khanom if u r sick go to doctor if u r bored go out but don’t judge others and don’t disrespect any religion cuz its sin….

D0cT0r
D0cT0r 3 years ago

And ur topic all the way is wrong and it’s true

If any sonni person red this topic could u pls tell me do u think shias kafir ? Be honest pls

D0cT0r
D0cT0r 3 years ago

I’m not trying to defend

zabrina
zabrina 3 years ago

whatever is written above is utterly and absolutely phony ….The messenger of Allah said whoever believes that “There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah” is Muslim….shia’s believes in Allah Swt and his messenger that’s enough to prove Shia’ s are Muslims

cristina
cristina 3 years ago

I’m half shia and half sonni but personally I’m shia and I agree with Zabrina Jan the topic is false

Merjan
Merjan 3 years ago

Its not phony, unfortunately some are like this.
but yeah its wrong, absolutely its wrong.

Doctor, i never said ALL shia’s are like that. I was talking in general

Yes zabrina thats right, muslim is muslim but if you do something, then do it good right?

Don’t beet yourself bloody on ashora,
(I’m very sure that Imam Hussein isn’t proud of this. )

Insteat of saying Ya Ali/ Ya Hussein, say Ya Allah
( some say you can ask any person for help, because that person wil go to Allah swt and ask him, they say Ya Ali madad because he (pbuh) was a strong man. Its wrong to ask someone else for help instead of Allah swt ).

If a muslim is a muslim then why sunni’s don’t want to marry a shia, and why shia’s don’t want to marry a sunni? And if they want, the familie doesn’t allow them.

I remember that marjan16 said that her future husband has to be a sunni.
thats her opinion and there is nothing wrong with that. 
but maby she could tell us why :)

Timati
Timati 3 years ago

shuma kuletan dewana asten,mardm da Mars chakar mezanan shuma da sare Sunni wa Shia jang darn,Alhamdulellah hamagi ma muslim astem wa yak khuda ra meparastem e gapa kulesh waste of time ast.

Merjan
Merjan 3 years ago

Timati, kasi jang nemekone

lol ey baba never mind mannnn, people her cant discuss

Timati
Timati 3 years ago

Merjan az khatr topic 2 qarib chand nafar shahid shuda bdn.

Merjan
Merjan 3 years ago

we all know that we are all muslims wa yak khuda ra meparastem,
khair dege, it was about how others think about it, and thats all

Timati
Timati 3 years ago

whatever..

zabrina
zabrina 3 years ago

You know what Merjan people aren’t capable to judge let Allah SWT be the judge and decide whose a kafirr & whose not…did Allah swt give us the right to call Other Muslims ( shia’s )a kaffir? tell me in which surah of Qur’an or scholar is written?

Merjan
Merjan 3 years ago

ohhh mannn why is it that hard to understand?
If you don’t want to discuss about it, or CAN’T discuss then nobody is forcing you to leave a comment

Merjan
Merjan 3 years ago

wee cheqat jangara hasten

zabrina
zabrina 3 years ago

we’re trying to discuss but you keep accusing that we are arguing i asked you a simple question…why don’t you just answer it?

Merjan
Merjan 3 years ago

ok so, if u did notice i didn’t judge

then second, yes its not right to judge and its not writen anywhere that other moslims are kafir or anything like that.

I did open this topic because i am a shia myself and because of that i know what some shia’s do. And its not nonsense, unfortunately it is the truth. some don’t know that what they do is wrong.

for exaple myself, i also used to say Ya Ali everytime.
or when you go to the mosque with ashura, sometimes everybody had to say Ya Hussein 100 times. After i know that it was wrong, i didn’t do it anymore.

Some people here are also shia, do they agree and know that its wrong or how do they think about it.

zabrina
zabrina 3 years ago

Merjan that means you called yourself a Kaffir divooneh shodi jk hehehehe

Merjan
Merjan 3 years ago

lol nah not we, others dege

cristina
cristina 3 years ago

Merjan when shias poeple do azadari in muharam for imam hussain do you think is that wrong ?

zabrina
zabrina 3 years ago

Sunni or Shia we’re all Muslims…unfortunately not all Sunni’s are Muslim and not all Shia’s are muslim Alhamdulilla

zabrina
zabrina 3 years ago

end of discussion!

marjan16
marjan16 3 years ago

merjanak don’t drag me into dis argument, iduno why I said such a thing lol I dont care if ma future

husband iz sunni, shia or kaffir

zabrina
zabrina 3 years ago

allah degah murwarigak

vidagak
vidagak 3 years ago

im a sunni girl soon enshallah i will get married to a shia person there’s absolutely no problem between us or our families

Merjan
Merjan 3 years ago

Ne christina , azadari az aroosi mohemtare

Insh’allah vidagak, thats great news and welcome back ;-)

vidagak
vidagak 3 years ago

thank you sweetheart its summer again you will see me online more often
Merjan my point was the marriage between shia’s and Sunni’s isn’t big deal anymore
hmmm like zabrina jan said whoever believes there’s no God but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah is Muslim and  it doesn’t matter to Allah whether you are Sunni or Shia what matters most to him is that we are all Muslims

liyana
liyana 3 years ago

ur the 1st shia saying such a thing, i mean its jst diffrnt ways to lead to god it dznt matter who u follow we respect all of our prophits ..and im shia we say ya allah and all of our prophits names its not lik all we say is ya ali all the time dats not true, and dznt matter which way we all muslim at the end of the day it all goes towards God so it shldnt matter wat we say. and woooo i heard that frm u that they r called kafir lik who on earth would say that. and plz dnt start such a convo lik its totally out of the topic.. no1 would b happy to argue or discuss it … and i agree with timati this topic is stupid to talk about.. ppl gone so far some ppl still remain at the same level..

Zanyar
Zanyar 3 years ago

We always say only Allah and we must know that Mohammad (s.a.w.) is his messenger.

Merjan
Merjan 3 years ago

Yes I did understand your point Vidagak, that really makes me happy to hear. You don’t stay at the same level when you talk about this Liyana, there is abseloutly nothing wrong with talking about it. But i see everybody here has the same opinion wich is good.

La il laha il Allah, Muhammad a rasool Allah, ws

vidagak
vidagak 3 years ago

gracias merjan im still abit confused why you think Shia’s are kaffir what makes you think that?

MoRR
MoRR 3 years ago

Muslim is Muslim and I’m just Muslim

D0cT0r
D0cT0r 3 years ago

She doesn’t even know wut makes her to think that from one way she says she is shia from another way says shia are kafir I just hope merjan gt her answer

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